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Winton Woods High School Fall Play May Be the Last

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Rehearsals are underway for the Winton Woods High School fall play, Cards on the Table by Agatha Christie, and you can already sense the excitement. Students are memorizing their lines and sets are being built. Soon costumes will be fitted and scenes will be blocked. But underneath the excitement, there’s also sadness. Everyone in the auditorium realizes that all of this may be happening for the last time.

“Without the passage of our emergency levy on November 3, this will be the last theater production at Winton Woods High School for awhile,” said Michelle Kozlowski, a 1993 graduate of the school who is in her twelfth year as director. “There will be no musical to look forward to in the spring. Our stage will be dark.”

Seniors Emily Cooper and Nathan Hackmann have been involved in shows at the high school since their freshman years. Neither can believe that they may miss the opportunity to perform in one final spring musical.

“I have been waiting for this last musical for literally over five years,” said Cooper. “I’ve worked my way up and grown as an actress to prepare for larger roles my senior year. Now that may not happen for me and about 50 other cast members, plus the stage crew and pit orchestra. That is a lot of people that it affects.”

Hackmann has worked both behind the scenes and on stage and has learned lessons from both. “Working on stage crew teaches you to be a team player,” said Hackmann. “Being in front of an audience teaches you about the critical level of trust that goes on between an actor and his audience.”

Both students say that even the thought of not having a spring musical is disheartening. “I cannot imagine our school not being able to offer a musical, or students in the future not having the wonderful opportunity that I did to be in it,” said Cooper. Hackmann agrees. “If our levy doesn’t pass, so many students won’t have the chance to grow and discover a new talent they didn’t know they had.”

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so in other words if someone is not able to pay an EXTRA $300.00 plus, OVER what they are paying now you are making them feel guilty that the high school children cant put on a play?

Lets talk about school books or classes that have to be dropped, or staff being let go and too many students in a classroom, now that could make me feel guilty!! Lets get our priorities straight!!!

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so in other words if someone is not able to pay an EXTRA $300.00 plus, OVER what they are paying now you are making them feel guilty that the high school children cant put on a play?

Lets talk about school books or classes that have to be dropped, or staff being let go and too many students in a classroom, now that could make me feel guilty!! Lets get our priorities straight!!!

Aren't you a teacher?

Would you be so quick to cut staff or supplies if it were your own school district?

Please try to remember back when you did have kids in Winton Woods. Did they participate in any drama, music or sports?

This is not abot $300, this is much larger then that. This levy vote is going to have a huge impact on not only the schools, but also the communties that send their kids to these schools.

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“There will be no musical to look forward to in the spring. Our stage will be dark.”

That begs the question "why"? Why would the stage be dark? Because the taxpayers didn't pass the levy? No, the stage will be dark because no one did anything to keep the lights on. If people don't want the stage to be dark, then the stage will not be dark. Start now to ensure that the lighs are on. If the levy passes, then use that extra money for additional enrichment.

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My children loved taking part in the Musicals at school. They performed the sping musicals at the Aronoff Center in the smaller theater each March. My son made the sets, my daughter sang and danced and acted. Gee, all with no tax dollars. Each participant payed to take part, parents donated time and $, and I think the directors and choregraphers donated their service. Oh yeah. Tickets were purchased by attendees, and all 5 shows were usually sold out.

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Gee, isn't that special that your kids were lucky enough to have parents who would pay the additional in time and money? I guess those kids without such a nice set-up are just s.o.l.

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My children loved taking part in the Musicals at school. They performed the sping musicals at the Aronoff Center in the smaller theater each March. My son made the sets, my daughter sang and danced and acted. Gee, all with no tax dollars. Each participant payed to take part, parents donated time and $, and I think the directors and choregraphers donated their service. Oh yeah. Tickets were purchased by attendees, and all 5 shows were usually sold out.

Well, that sure it interesting, why don't you start a new thread where you can discuss it? blink.gif

This topic is for disccussion of the upcoming Winton Woods High School play.

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If they want to put on plays, they can do it. They already have their own stage, and sets. Talk about a nice set up. You people really have no imagination. It always has to be the same old way or no way at all. sad.gif You have no consideration for the economy, people out of work, and people living on less. "Just give us more, or feel quilty"

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Gee, isn't that special that your kids were lucky enough to have parents who would pay the additional in time and money? I guess those kids without such a nice set-up are just s.o.l.

It doesn't take much GoBucks and you know it. It takes a few passionate, committed people to make it happen. Are you saying passionate and committed people don't exist in the WWCSD? This has nothing to do with luck and it certainly has nothing to do with money. If the desire is there, it will happen.

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Well, that sure it interesting, why don't you start a new thread where you can discuss it? blink.gif

This topic is for disccussion of the upcoming Winton Woods High School play.

Hayden's comments are completely relevant. Hayden talks about volunteerism, donating time, talent and generating revenue via donations and ticket sales. It's completely applicable.

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That is such an unfair assessment of what the "pro-levy" people feel it doesn't even deserve comment.

NO ONE is suggesting that it is easy or that it won't require sacrifice. It's a matter of priorities. If you can afford cable t.v., you can afford the tax increase. If you can afford to eat lunch out at work once a week, you can afford the tax increase. If you can afford to eat, even at McDonald's once a week, you can afford the tax increase. If you can afford to go play bingo, you can afford the tax increase. If you can afford a cellular phone, you can afford the tax increase. Am I being tough? You bet I am. While that may not be a problem for me now, we had to make those decisions for a lot of years and we always made them in favor of tax levys for schools.

My favorite story when I was heading up levy campaigns in Fairfield was the senior couple who voted "no" because they couldn't afford the increase. Oh, and they had to vote absentee because they were going to Hawaii for 3 weeks. This was not a "trip of a lifetime" for them, either. Believe me. I knew them as they were my neighbors. It was a matter of priorities.

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Tell that to some young couple, or single mom with a couple of very young children struggling to pay a mortgage or rent on their $60K dwelling, paying for their car and insurance, food and baby needs. Alll while the schools are spending $11500 per student. See how much they worry about the spring musical. " Yea, our rent or taxes are going up." When we were young, we had no cable, cell phone, VCR, bingo, etc. We put housing first, and shopped at garage sales. Don't you remember when you were first starting a family? I see a lot of young people pushing strollers around town.

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That is such an unfair assessment of what the "pro-levy" people feel it doesn't even deserve comment.

I'm not assessing anyone, the fact is "those people exist". It can be done whether the levy passes, or not.

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NO ONE is suggesting that it is easy or that it won't require sacrifice. It's a matter of priorities.

That's inaccurate. My decision to vote "no" has nothing to do with priorities.

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Tell that to some young couple, or single mom with a couple of very young children struggling to pay a mortgage or rent on their $60K dwelling, paying for their car and insurance, food and baby needs. Alll while the schools are spending $11500 per student. See how much they worry about the spring musical. " Yea, our rent or taxes are going up." When we were young, we had no cable, cell phone, VCR, bingo, etc. We put housing first, and shopped at garage sales. Don't you remember when you were first starting a family? I see a lot of young people pushing strollers around town.

I absolutely DO remember being a young mother with 3 children. It's no one's business what our life was like then, but, I can categorically say that we lived well below the poverty line. No, we didn't have cable, or cell phones, or any of that. But the choices we made were the equivalent.

I believed it then and I still believe it. It is a matter of priorities.

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""Good questions. How much financial burden should they tax payer have to pay so that others need could be met? I'm not sure I have the answer. Though with all the levies on the ballot this year, I'm worried that my tax bill will greatly increase my mortage, and more than my budget can handel.K-Roman"________________________________________________________________

"This is a quote from the MRDD Levy thread in current events. It answers Go Bucks question about the levy."This hasn't been broached and I'm curious. Why should a tax payer vote for this levy? Conversely, why shouldn't they?"

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""Good questions. How much financial burden should they tax payer have to pay so that others need could be met? I'm not sure I have the answer. Though with all the levies on the ballot this year, I'm worried that my tax bill will greatly increase my mortage, and more than my budget can handel.K-Roman"________________________________________________________________

"This is a quote from the MRDD Levy thread in current events.  It answers Go Bucks question about the levy."This hasn't been broached and I'm curious. Why should a tax payer vote for this levy? Conversely, why shouldn't they?"

Interresting

People will vote for levies that affect them personally--if it doesn't, they may or may not care. If I had a mentally handicapped child, I would be all about the MRDD levy. If I was a gambler, I'd be all about the casino issue. I do intend to vote for the Public Library funding, as I am an avid user of the public library. WW school levy, I already pay tons of $ for private school. If the consumers of the product WWCS offers would vote--the levy would pass. The people who don't vote, don't care and don't participate will make or break the passage. It's not up to private schoolers, retirees, homeschoolers and all the rest to pass the levy. Those NO votes could easily be overcome, if the majority of consumers bothered to vote and wanted to spend the $.

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YesTriple, I have attended many plays at WWSC. I already posted about my childrens heavy involvement in school musicals for over 9 years. I know how they work. Only our school had no stage or auditorium and had to rent the theater at the Aronoff and the Fairfield civic center. So with no tax dollars, it was completely paid for with ticket sales and donations and student Pay to Play.

If the district leaders cut the use of the school auditorium for plays, blame them, not the tax payers. The school is spending enough already. $11,500 per student. Cut something else.

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I find it interesting that the people who are the most critical of the WWCSD are those who apparently know little, if anything, about it! Have any of your children ever been involved in a WWHS theatrical production? Do you know firsthand what goes into one? Have you ever even attended one?

To suggest that the “show could go on” if students and parents were just willing to donate time and money is insulting. Do you have any idea what the students and parents already donate? Students pay an ever higher Pay-to-Play fee. Admittance to the show is by paid ticket only, and the spring musical is often sold out. Students put in countless hours in rehearsals, as many as 35-40 hours a week close to show time. None of this begins until after school hours. Their time and efforts are entirely voluntary, and it is absolutely exhausting. Academic requirements are strict and if a student falls behind, they are out of the show.

You might be amazed at the depth of parent involvement, which begins months before show time.  They sew costumes, help with sets, provide bottled water during rehearsals, baked goods for sale during Intermission, and help in a variety of other ways. Then they provide dinner for about 100 cast/crew/orchestra members each night for the last two weeks before the show because they care about the students’ health and nutrition. This is paid for entirely by parent donations and cooked and served by the parents themselves. I can tell you that the spring musical cost many parents an arm and a leg last year, but it was time and money well spent.  Parents could not possibly do more than they are already doing.

I’m not sure tax dollars actually pay for any part of these productions, except to keep the building open after school hours. If the levy doesn't pass, it would likely mean that WWHS would have to close immediately after school, like the other district schools are already doing. In that case, rehearsals and performances could not be held. What a devastating loss that would be.

Instead of assuming Winton Woods students and parents are a bunch of slackers, take the time to find out the real story.  You might be surprised by what you learn, and enriched by those you meet.

It's the same thing that goes on in any highschool (public or private) production. Been there, worked my butt off volunteering my time so my kid could be part of a great performance. Plays, show choir, art shows and on and on. It's extra, on the part of the performers, music, directors, costumes, make-up, props etc. If all that is needed is for someone to open the building, put the lights on and lock up afterward, that could easily be solved. Start by raising ticket prices.

Just cutting off school productions because the levy doesn't pass is really a slap in the face to all the student and adult volunteer hours, sweat, money achievement, and excitement that the productions create. That's the problem with the promised cuts to be made if the levy fails. There's always a way to make something happen, unless it's all or nothing.

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My property taxes take alittle over 1/3 of my Social Security check each month. Does not leave me much left to pay other necessary bills and to live on!! I have applied for my absentee ballot and can't wait to get this off my mind. I will not read one more post concerning the school tax levy. I will not be made to feel quilty. I am so tired of hearing grown men and women whining about everything. You mention the plays, musicals, etc. I have attended practically everyone over the years and love The Christma Concert. With the help of volunteers, donations, concerned parents and talented students working together, these shows can continue without the levy. It can be done but it's so much easier to cry a little and demand the money from the tax payers. Also, I read an article about a coach at Winton Woods and his new coaching role. He's now the character education coach for Winton Woods High School' Freshman ACADEMY!! ??? "My new position helps students make the adjustmentof going from Middle School to High School without dealing with the anxiety of the transition"!! How much of a raise does this new position add to the teacher's salaries?? Support the students????? mad.gif

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I find it interesting that the people who are the most critical of the WWCSD are those who apparently know little, if anything, about it! Have any of your children ever been involved in a WWHS theatrical production? Do you know firsthand what goes into one? Have you ever even attended one?

To suggest that the “show could go on” if students and parents were just willing to donate time and money is insulting. Do you have any idea what the students and parents already donate? Students pay an ever higher Pay-to-Play fee. Admittance to the show is by paid ticket only, and the spring musical is often sold out. Students put in countless hours in rehearsals, as many as 35-40 hours a week close to show time. None of this begins until after school hours. Their time and efforts are entirely voluntary, and it is absolutely exhausting. Academic requirements are strict and if a student falls behind, they are out of the show.

You might be amazed at the depth of parent involvement, which begins months before show time.  They sew costumes, help with sets, provide bottled water during rehearsals, baked goods for sale during Intermission, and help in a variety of other ways. Then they provide dinner for about 100 cast/crew/orchestra members each night for the last two weeks before the show because they care about the students’ health and nutrition. This is paid for entirely by parent donations and cooked and served by the parents themselves. I can tell you that the spring musical cost many parents an arm and a leg last year, but it was time and money well spent.  Parents could not possibly do more than they are already doing.

I’m not sure tax dollars actually pay for any part of these productions, except to keep the building open after school hours. If the levy doesn't pass, it would likely mean that WWHS would have to close immediately after school, like the other district schools are already doing. In that case, rehearsals and performances could not be held. What a devastating loss that would be.

Instead of assuming Winton Woods students and parents are a bunch of slackers, take the time to find out the real story.  You might be surprised by what you learn, and enriched by those you meet.

The district can open the school doors if they want, all you have to do is pay a janitor, just like we did at OLR when we used the "Greenhills Community Building" for sports. The difference is, now administration just wants to make everyone suffer and make them believe that the doors can never be open again. The fact is, the doors can be open, they choose not to open them, even to people who are willing to pay for it. What they're selling is a bunch of malarkey with the intent to control.

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If the levy doesn't pass, all extra curriculars at WWHS stop. This includes Spring Musical.

Although I don't often agree with Longtime Resider, he does hit the nail on the head.

Those NO votes could easily be overcome, if the majority of consumers bothered to vote and wanted to spend the $.

He is correct. The battle is not with the folks on here that just like to sit back and bellyache about schools that they haven't set foot in in years. It really is with getting our parents to vote for their children.

Keep a few things in mind. There will be no "It's a Wonderful Life" moments here. If you are reading these threads with this false belief that you can stay home or vote NO on the levy, you are going to be in for a rude awakening come November 4th. It will be gone. All gone.

The Spring Musical will not go on if the levy fails.

It is funny to hear the same people on here whining about school taxes that had no problem with others footing the bill for their children to participate. It was okay for folks to volunteer THEIR time to help THEIR kids, sure. But now, oh no.

Now its all about sending messages.

If the levy fails, the damage to the Winton Woods School District will be severe and irrevocable.

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If the levy doesn't pass, all extra curriculars at WWHS stop.  This includes Spring Musical.

Because the Board will not permit it. They would rather say "I told you so" then allow people to step up to the plate to make it happen.

If the levy fails, the damage to the Winton Woods School District will be severe and irrevocable. 

Because the Board will make it so. They would rather say "I told you so" then let people step up to the plate. The Board doesn't want anyone to step up. They just want to be right and it doesn't matter who suffers for it.

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Also, I read an article about a coach at Winton Woods and his new coaching role. He's now the character education coach for Winton Woods High School' Freshman ACADEMY!! ??? "My new position helps students make the adjustmentof going from Middle School to High School without dealing with the anxiety of the transition"!! How much of a raise does this new position add to the teacher's salaries?? Support the students????? mad.gif

This position should be the first one cut if the levy fails. The stress of entering highschool needs a counselor? All kids leave 8th grade and enter highschool. In the private schools, they disperse to several different highschools. Friends are left behind and new friends are made. It's always been that way. For crying out loud, kids adjust to stress far better than adults. It's a little taste of reality of things to come. When you enter college, you are just another small fish in a big pond. If this truly is a paid position, there are certainly cuts to be made besides the sports and extras that give kids a chance to have fun. Now it just seems that the kids will be punished if the levy fails. I thought it was supposed to be about the kids? huh.gif

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So am I understanding this correctly?

If the levy fails, and let's just say for example that parents, kids, random volunteers want to step up and make the musical and other productions happen, that this will NOT be allowed? I don't get that. It's like a punishment for the levy not passing.

Why just say that they can't have it. Where there is a will, there is usually a way.

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