Complaints Against Property Values

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COMPLAINTS AGAINST PROPERTY VALUES

Residents, it has come to the Village’s attention that a private citizen has filed complaints against the property values of various homes in the Village of Greenhills.   If you have received a letter from the Hamilton County Board of Revisions entitled “Notice of Intent” or “Complaint Against the Valuation of Real Property” and are unsure how to proceed, please contact Amy Humphrey with the Hamilton County Auditor at 513-946-4031 or by email at amy.humphrey@auditor.hamilton-co.orgThe Village is not involved in this process or the complaints being made.  However, we encourage you to take this notice seriously as it may ultimately result in a change in your property value.  It is in your best interest to follow up with the County for additional information related to this notice.  You have 30 days from the date of the letter to take action.

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The Board of Revisions received 76 complaints filed by this one person.  The intent was to raise the taxes of these property owners, with the exception of her own which, she file to lower.

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Hmmmmm, wonder who that could be... I'll have to think very hard on it...

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Let me help you out, this certain individual resident of the Village requested in the months of December and January, 18 separate requests for public records, covering 70 different subjects, usually requesting all documentation back to the year 2000 to present (in other words the last 20 years).  Again,  this just for just  2 months, as this resident has had a substantial history in making such requests over many years and many times for the same information.

 Current Ohio and federal law allows for public records requests and they should be available.  However, at what point does such numerous requests fall into the category of taunting and, frankly, “paper terrorism”.  What is the cost to the taxpayers in Village staff time and materials to comply with such requests?  And to what purpose except to cost the Village tens of thousands of dollars, your dollars.

At the same time, the recent demolition of vacant, beyond repair and uninhabitable Village owned properties, was held up by subsequently denied and thrown out multiple court filing requests by this same individual, causing the Village to defend itself in five separate hearings  and to spend even  thousands of dollars more to defend ourselves, involve the time of the Greenhills police at various times, interrupt contractors working for the Village under legal contracts, and involve federal  agencies  from the EPA and the National Park Service making claims that just weren’t true.  Again, what is the purpose?  What is the cost to the taxpayers in legal fees, increased insurance costs, and property taxes on distressed property that should and will be developed into compatible, consistent, and habitable properties in an important part of the Village.

A reasonable person would have to wonder the intent not only because of these actions.   The public name calling and character assassination on social media, grandstanding at council meetings (not standing for the opening prayer, the silliness of “taking a knee” during the pledge of allegiance, standing in front of the audience during the entire council meeting (one assumes to be on camera), let alone the interruptions, inaccurate and at times insulting public comments).  A reasonable person would also need to consider what drives a person to be disowned from the historical interests (GH Historical Society) they claim to represent and banned from at least two local public discussion websites because they just can’t help themselves.

What drives a person to be this bitter and shameless?   Now this resident has chosen to involve seventy some neighbors in her twisted view of the world. Shame.

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It's because her barracks are right next to the ones they just knocked down.

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Yes, it's partially because she's in the "war zone" (her words), but I think it's more than that. She's a person that values her opinion over that of others, and denigrates anyone who disagrees with her (even if she was just praising that person for agreeing with her on another issue). She is an expert on taxes because she worked for the IRS once. She is an expert on real estate because she was once a broker and a "candidate for the Institute of Real Estate Management Certified Property Manager certification" (I read "candidate" as  "uncertified"). She's rehabbed homes, so her opinion on construction soil erosion trumps that of a practicing soil geologist (my wife). She's lived in the neighborhood since the dinosaurs and I've lived here less than a year (creepy that she keeps track) so my opinion is "barely relevant".

Because her Expert Opinion is Always Right, she doesn't see the discrepancy between forcing hours and hours of work on village employees and complaining about higher taxes, or filing to lower her property valuation while complaining that it's the village's fault when values go down.

My mom thinks she's just lonely and bored. It's hard to deny that it's part of it (how can you have a social life when you spend all your time compiling spreadsheets to raise your neighbors taxes, or preparing for your next lawsuit?), but I think she's so dug in and has been for so long that there's no turning back. We could get a complete new council, village staff, and police force, and she'd still find John Nash-esque connections proving that the same conspiracies are still going on.

And that's from observing her for less than a year...

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How bout a class action lawsuit including every Village resident that wants to participate?  Is Stan Chesley still disbarred?

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Of all the people she has targeted/threatened over the years, how many of them own property on her list of 70?

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Cincygrrl,

Several well known names in either the Bayham area or Ligorio/Carini areas, then some properties on Avenell.  It seems the intent was to target both them and their neighbors, judging from the person's email indicating their intent to attend the meeting.  A rough count of residents attending the meeting was about 60. A great majority still didn't really understand what and why it had happened.  The meeting was chaired by the Village Manager and was intended to give those residents information on best how to proceed to counter-claim the complaint to the County Board of Revisions.  No representative from the County was present.

Of the 76 complaint properties filed with the county before the March 31st deadline, 74 were for substantial increases.  Two were for decreases, properties of the person complaining and one other property in the "D" section.

Besides the apparent targeting of past and present Village officials, the person filing the complaints offered justification for their action as a way to increase property tax income for both the Village and the School District  (one assumes shared blame).  Unfortunately for the those two folks who asked for decreases, any such increases they were proposing would not provide the "WINDFALL" they claimed.  School levies and Village levies are voted upon and are a specific dollar amount that do not increase with higher values.  This has been long standing law in the State of Ohio for nearly 50 years. Voted millage is called Outside Millage and represents the great majority of anyone's property tax bill. There is a small provision in what's called the 10 Mil Inside Millage that does float with assessed values.

In this case, if in some really bad dream the $2.5 Million of increased value being claimed were to proceed (which is unlikely but affected residents still have to go through the process of counter-claim) the Inside Millage would generated $2,678 for the Village and about $11,000 for the schools......certainly not a "Windfall",  Both amounts pale in comparison the amount of time, effort, cost of hearings, etc. that this whole effort by one person has caused.  Certainly, the County Auditor's office never intended the Board of Revision to be used to be "weaponized" for neighbors to attack neighbors in such manner.  I suspect that some new filing guidelines are forthcoming at the County in the future.

The Village intends to assist in whatever way with the 74 property owners in their counter-claims, assuming all do not wish to have there assessed/taxed property values increased over and above what the County has already calculated and does for the entirety of Hamilton County.

 

 

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Barracks?  Your calling a lot of long time villagers homes barracks?   The older and wiser I become I can  take dumb comments like yours and put it aside and laugh.  Warrior I do find your post very interesting and informational  

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Nuttly

 

Take no offense, the term is used by old time Greenhills residents.  All the "military" style apartments are the "barracks".  Nothing derogatory, just what they are called due to shape and style.

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Nuttly

 

Take no offense, the term is used by old time Greenhills residents.  All the "military" style apartments are the "barracks".  Nothing derogatory, just what they are called due to shape and style.

Take no offense, Edge. Nothing derogatory, but you look like the Yeti trapped somewhere between the summer of 69' and the Disco era.

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